I had a great third interview with Jim Humble, with the principal subject being cancer. It’ll be my Talk for Food program for next week, which I’ll upload tomorrow morning. [11/2/2007 — The show has been uploaded, click here to listen.
We touched upon a few additional “general issues” of note relative to MMS:
- It’s best to take it on an empty stomach. That seemed to be a no brainer to me, but the evidence is now in, and it’s official.
- Best time of day seems yet to be an individual thing.
- The concept of “sipping” your MMS over the course of the day instead rather than doing one gulp was new to me.
- He clarified the understanding that while the chlorine dioxide atom has a 2-hour life, the sodium chlorite and activator is generating chlorine dioxide for 12 hours.
- He shared some fascinating and hopeful about using MMS to treat burns.
This will be a great prelude to the Talk for Food show that goes online November 16, when my guest is Andreas Moritz, author of nine books, including Cancer is Not a Disease! It’s a Survival Mechanism, and The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush. We’ll continue on the same subject with Andreas, who has embraced MMS as a viable, important new tool for internal cleansing.
I think I’m going to arrange to take a trip to meet him in person with camera and video camera, interview people who are using the protocol and produce a documentary on some of the work that’s been done, and is being done.
can beasrt cancer take this medication
I’m looking forward to this new video Adam….
hello jim
Thanks for all the useful information. Your insight is very keen. Keep it up.
……While the world may have bacteria a bad name, is one that is pleasant and well-behaved for our bodies, such as Lactobacillus acidophilus is known and it is all around us in a long time but it is not known to many people. Therefore try to make an unbiased overview of the main aspects of these friendly bacteria.
Acidophilus is a microorganism, the digestive system and intestinal health aids. Acidophilus Lactobacillus is recognized in the dairy-free form, since many people consume lactose intolerance or animal products. Acidophilus, additional health benefits together with strengthening the immune system.
thanks so much for all your research and intelligent articles. MMS is truly a miracle and I share the knowledge with as many people as I can.
Hi Jane,
Thank you for dropping by and the kind thoughts. MMS is definitely a great tool that can help in many areas.
Best wishes,
Adam…
Hi guys! I’m back after a long scary time where I thought I was going to die. Well, i haven’t yet. I was cleared of having bladder cancer in July, but I was hesitant to believe it so I went eslewhere for futher testing. Yep, It is gone. Phewwwwww. I can breathe now. I am not saying that I will begin selling this product, but I truly believe that it worked for me. Perhaps it was the power of believeing, the wanting to believe it, or a combination of the MMS and belief. I now share with others what I did when I hear that they know of someone that has some kind of cancer. They seem interested at first, but soon fade away as if they do not believe it works. All I can say is that if you are truly scared of dying and someone tells you that it worked for them, wouldn’t you try it? Well, I read about it and chose to use it. I’m glad I did. I am now working out 5 times a week gaining weight and lifting weights to get back in shape once again. This stuff gave me the energy to excercise almost everyday, the restful nights I needed for recovery, and the belief I needed to overcome this stage of my life. I think that a combination of all these factors helped me get through my scare.
If anyone has questions for me about my use of MMS, feel free to contact me at luiehipolito@aol.com.
Cheers!
Hello all, I am a new user of MMS since 7/20. It was brought to my attention by a friend.
In April I was unable to hold down any food or liquid. After 3 weeks was very dehydrated and ended in hospital. After tests, it was determined I had a 12 cm tumor which was wrapped around my duodenum causing the blockage. Surgery was suggested, but I left to try alternatives. Unfortunately after 3 weeks, what I was doing was not working as I was still losing weight and becoming weak.
I went back to hospital and chose surgery, which was done 5/29, however, they could not remove the tumor, but did a bypass from stomach to intestines so I could eat again. Biopsy since has been sent all over to different pathologists and they cannot as yet (after 2 months) determine what type of ?sarcoma? I have, so they can decide what type of “cocktail” to use to shrink it.
I have tho been utilizing alternative methods and added the MMS. Got up to 7 drops last week, but got the diarrhea and nausea for two days and backed down to 3 and now up to 6:30 twice a day.
I would like any suggestions or advice (had a new catscan done 2-3 weeks ago and it does not seem the tumor has grown, which I feel good about, but who knows what else it could be doing). I do not want to have chemo or radiation if at all possible, so feel a little relieved that no results are back from biopsy as they are not pressuring me. Don’t know if not having results are good or bad…
thanks for any help….
Just fell on these notes and found the info very interesting as I start to read more and more about mms. I would like to follow up on a comment from Dennis from April 7th. He mentions that an old toothache came back after brushing with mms and Im wondering if that was a good thing meaning I keep reading the mms will often make a condition worse for a short time as it fixes the problem for the long term. Sooo if the pain came back the problem probably never really healed and is in that healing process now but as with many natural treatments things reopen and get worse before getting better. Anyway just a thought! Great site & info by the way!! PS my dad has gout very bad in his thumb and I got him to rest his hand in a bowl of activated mms mixed with water and after 1 session (30 mins later) he could start to move his thumb after another sessions there was more improvement he was thrilled. Kep the great mms info coming thanks Adam. Cheers,
Sharon
Greetings Sharon,
Thanks for sharing your great MMS info with us! I feel that your assessment of the healing process is correct. More people are gaining experience with self-healing and health restoration, to which MMS is just one tool.
Regards,
Adam…
i am not so sure …i have been taking it for 2 weeks and have some reservations. Chad makes some points that seem to need addressing.
Are we willing to use ourselves as guinea pigs ?
From using it myself i get incredibly tired and heavy even before bedtime. That said , i do feel some positive breakthroughs with thought patterns being clearer.
On a negative note, i brushed my teeth with MMS/citric acid /water and redeveloped a toothache which had been gone for many months ; it came back the morning after brushing.
My raw dairy diet/ no grains had taken care of it until i brushed…
i share Chad’s concern about how does the MMS differentiate between good and bad once in the body ? What about the studies with pups of rats ?
i want this to be the wonderful remedy that we are all hoping for but some doubts are now there which force me to take stock and pause.
On the matter of diet ,i would encourage people to look into the findings of Weston Price ; i have helped myself by following much of his findings.
Dennis,
You ask whether we’re willing to use ourselves as guinea pigs… who would you rather have use you as a guinea pig? That’s all the doctors, pharmaceutical companies, government, military, and everyone else that produces pathogens and pollutants are doing. Do you think that an oncologist who tells an advance stage cancer patient that the chemotherapy “probably won’t do any doing, but I’m going to give it to you anyway” is not using the patient as a guinea pig? That plus a meal ticket. They certainly aren’t doing it to help them.
Also, wondering how MMS differentiates between aerobic and anaerobic micro-organisms is one thing, “concern” is another. The description of how chlorine dioxide works wasn’t cooked up in anyone’s imagination, it is the result of scientific observation, and has shown itself to be valid. The main thing that would warrant my attention is whether the effects that people have experienced were consistent with what my intelligence suggests that I should be able to anticipate, if chlorine dioxide works as claimed. If we used such logic, *no one* would take chemotherapy because no matter how many degrees that a doctor has earned, or now much they say its use is indicated by their Standard Practices Manual, it doesn’t produce the results that I’d be looking for.
Weston A. Price Foundation is a great resource.
Best wishes,
Adam…
The diarrhea is your bodies way of flushing toxins.
The other pathways are sweating, excelerated breathing, & increased urination. In other words we have to urinate, defecate, perspirate, & respirate our way back to health. The MMS is helping your body pull toxins that have been stored for years and the best way to reduce or eliminate the symptoms (diarrhea) of cleansing/healing is to use something that will bind with these toxins and safely carry them out of the body. The only thing I would recommend that will effectively do this is Living Clay used between doses of MMS. http://www.livingclayco.com has the best clay available & is very affordable. For more info go to http://www.aboutclay.com. I would also recommend checking your urine & saliva pH frequently & in a cancerous state you want to keep the pH above 8.4. Cancer is dormant at a pH of 8.4 and a higher pH will break up the cancer and flush it out naturally. I believe that is part of the equation involved in the use of MMS as sodium chlorite is very alkaline. Also, I would recommend using lemon or lime instead of vinegar or citric acid to activate the MMS as these actually turn alkaline in the body during digestion and are not the product of fermentation as is vinegar which has bacteria in it. Instead of mixing the activated MMS in juice I would add water which doesn’t have any sugar which is a strong acid and the primary food source for the bacteria, yeast/fungus, and mold that is within your body that is causing the cancer. This will only help the body heal faster as you are being counter-productive by consuming and feeding what the MMS is killing. For more info you may contact me through my website http://www.prohealthdynamics.com.
Adam,
So where do I go from here?…..I have hit 10 drops three times a day and experienced diarreah…..for two full days now. At first it was reduced when I lowered the dose by one drop. I returned this morning feeling good and upped it back to 10. I can’t seem to get past this point and quite frankly, I am thinking of stopping until my symptoms go away? Please advise. I do want to get rid of my bladder cancer.
Dear Luie,
Jason has answered your question beautifully. In essence, the MMS is bringing about a releasing event, which we are conditioned to view as negative. Your body is releasing toxicity that has been neutralized.
Best wishes,
Adam…
Hi all,
I’ve been told prior that I have cancer of the bladder. Yesterday at my follow-up (visit (to a reoval of a tumor) I was told it was cancerous. Of course I freaked out, cried for a moment and then just like that, got over it; I have decided to use MMS which arrived just in time….it arrived during the day and was waiting for me when I got home. I do not want to ever have to get to the point where I will need radiation, chemo, or any more surgery. I also do not want to depend on the Big Pharma to mask my illness by treating the symptoms. I want to believe that MMS will work for me.
My first dose was a one dropper last night..no signs of either positive or negative yet. I took two this morning…….the only thing I noticed was a very bright urine and the smell of chlorine; could just be phychosomatic, but I did sleep like a baby…something I have not done in years.
Question is: Is bright urine normal? What’s next?
Hi Luie,
I can’t speak to “bright” urine, but your body’s response — a noticeable improvement your sleep — is a positive sign. During sound sleep, the body can repair itself.
Your biggest and most powerful asset is your attitude. You’re very clear on your approach. While it’s immeasurable, it is where the power to resolved comes from. Believe in yourself. Understand that your body will repair itself as you reduce and remove the pollution that has fowled it up, and MMS can help you achieve your goal.
Best wishes,
Adam…
Ethel, I’ve been taking mms for almost six months now and I’ve noticed that my hair is getting thin and dull too, as well as my skin. Could mms be oxidizing our skin and hair???
Phaelosopher,
The link to the 3rd interview appears to be broken.
Would you be so kind as to fix it so I may download it?
I find your posts to be absolutely fascinating.
I hope everyone realises this finding, if in actuality is what it is claiming to be, then, this is a historical moment in medicine. One which is grass-roots, and gives the power back to the people, instead of it being in the hands of big pharma et al.
I started taking MMS today. I took 2 drops with the addition of citric acid and a 3 minute wait. I have no particular illness and consider myself healthy and well. I just want to see if I can be even more well than I already am. I feel alot more clear in the head, but I think that’s psychosomatic. We’ll see.
Big thanks to phaelosopher.
Karl,
Thank you for the well-wishes. In my opinion, the historical significance of MMS (and other products that achieve what it does) is actually beyond medicine. It’s about humanity beginning to *see* clearly again, and *feel* profoundly again, WHO THEY ARE. The pollution that we have allowed to silently and painlessly take in over years of time, alters human perception *without* our awareness. Then we look for “cures” that also rely on perception altering toxicity. And when people die from the septic condition that their bodies can no longer handle, we chalk it up to “the disease,” and not the treatment. That day is changing, as human awareness changes.
“The cure” is awareness… of imbalance, and the restoration thereof, by whatever means.
Best wishes,
Adam…
I just wanted to share my experiences with MMS. I’ve had it for about 2 weeks now. However, I stopped after taking 5 drops for 4-5 days due to overload of work… Today I wasn’t feeling very well. Could be something I ate – I felt dizzy, lungs were not feeling well and my abdomen was feeling queezy and eating unhealthy during my busy schedule — when I got home late at night I went straight to my kitchen and downed 7 drops of MMS with lemon drops (3 minute wait) and this is what happened:
dizziness dissapeared
pain in abdomen stopped after 3 minutes
became instantly more awake and alert
feeling tingling sensation in different parts of body
It seems like the higher I climb in taking more drops with MMS, the more powerful it gets in clearing issues in my body. The 2 drops didn’t seem to do much for me but I understand that it is important to take so little in the body due to the body getting use to it. But I have definitely realized I should have kept taking MMS. Expecially for being a smoker – I can’t imagine how much toxins I have in my body after smoking for 15 years of my life and I’m sure that it will take months to get rid of “most” of it. I’ve quit smoking now and I can feel the MMS working in my system, in my blood.
I usually eat quite healthy now too with Dr. Schulze’s Super Food and he also has the best herbal remedies (www.herbdoc.com)
Anyways, just wanted to share my thoughts with everyone here — so keep on the MMS, drink lots of fruits and veggies in a blender, take your doses of Ichinecia and try Dr. Schulze’s Super Food Formula.
Good health to you all!
Lee
Can you tell me if anyone has said they have noticed a change in their hair while taking MMS. I find that my hair is getting very thin and was wondering if maybe someone else has noticed this.. It could be another problem like Iodine deficiency and is probably a coincidence
I started a few months ago with MMS and I went from 2 drops to 10 to 15 drops a day in three days. I have not had a single symptom ie upset stomach,pains etc. Does this mean it isn’t working for me? I take 15 drops before bed for prostate cancer.
Chad, great post, Go back in this site to the flame post and read more
Thank you for your answer to my query on March 8th..I have found that taking mms just before going to bed (15 drops) gives me a wonderful sleep. and when I wake in the morning the sick feeling is not there.I have an ongoing nose infection and will keep up the 15 drops until such time as it has gone away.. Cheers… Ethel
Hey Chad !
What are you saying ? Should we stop taking the MMS because it will do more, or only harm, than good?
Fr from Tor in Norway
Hey AA !
I am now up to 6 drops , 3 times a day (6:30, 13:30 and 21:30 ) and I feel very tired and sick like I am poisened.
When I purcased the MMS Robert told me not to stopp taking any of the other remedies which are; multi minerals + extra magnesium, apricotkernals, oliveleafeextract, curcummin, Hepar 140, Avodart, Iscadoer injections 3x week, vitamin a1, gamma E and Q10
During my 74 years I have suffered from allergies and food intolerance. I am well known with the unpleasant results, but this time it is really bad !
The reason I started on MMS is cancer of my prostate (attempted removed 20 months ago with HIFU ) spread to one lymphnode
Monday I`ll go to the lab and check my blood.
Any suggestions?
Thank you for your time.
Tor in Norway
tor, add mms2 to the mix,i capsue 250 mg 4 times a day(78 percent calcium hypochorite) unti prostate is cured.it CURED my friends terminal prostate cancer fast.
dont forgett to drink 2 to 3 gasses of water after taking the capsule of mms2.READ JIM HUMBLES NEWSLETTER.
http://www.jimhumble.biz
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts160.html
Studies in rats have shown that exposure of pregnant animals to chlorine dioxide or exposure of pups shortly after birth may cause delays in the development of the brain.
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf
It has also been shown that chlorine dioxide reacts with free fatty acids (Ghandbari et al., 1983).
chlorine dioxide reacts readily with amino acids cysteine, tryptophan, and tyrosine …
Acid-Chlorite Solution – Chlorine dioxide can be generated by direct-acidification generators in acidification of sodium chlorite solution. Several stoichiometric reactions have been reported for such processes (Gordon et al., 1972). When chlorine dioxide is generated in this way, hydrochloric acid is generally preferred.
Chlorine dioxide generators are operated to obtain the maximum production (yield) of chlorine dioxide, while minimizing free chlorine or other residual oxidant formation. The specified yield for chlorine dioxide generators is typically greater than 95 percent.
[so, even for commericial generators, 5% of the reaction produces free chlorine and other by-products – this link also describes the dynamic complexity of chlorine dioxide reactions]
[in order for CLO2 to be effective against most pathogens, you need to build up a concentration of several mg/L of ClO2 in your body …]
Chlorite and chlorate are produced in varying ratios as endproducts during chlorine dioxide treatment and subsequent degradation.
Chlorine dioxide reacts with the soluble forms of iron and manganese to forms precipitates that can be removed through sedimentation and filtration.
At this time, it is unclear whether the primary mode of inactivation for chlorine dioxide lies in the peripheral structures or nucleic acids.
The application of chlorine dioxide does not produce THMs and produces only a small amount of total organic halide (TOX) (Werdehoff and Singer, 1987).
chlorine dioxide concentrations exceeding 0.4 to 0.5 mg/L contribute to taste and odor problems (AWWA, 1990).
[so, if you had several mg/L of ClO2 in your body liquids, the dose to kill most pathogens, your body fluids would be fairly odorous with the smell of chlorine]
Singer (1992) noted that the formation of non-halogenated organic byproducts of chlorine dioxide has not been adequately researched … [but] produces a small amount of organic halides (Werdehoff and Singer, 1987).
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts160.html
Chlorine dioxide is a gas that does not occur naturally in the environment.
[often, i see this listed as a “natural supplement”, and it is neither natural, nor a supplement].
Chlorite is formed when chlorine dioxide reacts with water.
When added to water, chlorine dioxide forms chlorite ion, which is also a very reactive chemical.
Chlorine dioxide is a very reactive compound and breaks down quickly in the environment.
Both chlorine dioxide and chlorite react quickly in water or moist body tissues. Eating or drinking large amounts of chlorite salts may cause irritation in the mouth, esophagus, or stomach.
There are no studies on cancer in humans exposed to chlorine dioxide or chlorite.
Based on inadequate information in humans and in animals, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) and the EPA have determined that chlorine dioxide and sodium chlorite are not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.
Studies in rats have shown that exposure of pregnant animals to chlorine dioxide or exposure of pups shortly after birth may cause delays in the development of the brain.
[the chloride ion was 80% of the ClO2 metabolites, and chlorite 20% – not “salt” as claimed].
Neonatal jaundice occurred more frequently in infants whose mothers resided in the area where surface water was disinfected with chlorine dioxide, when compared with infants with mothers using nondisinfected well water. Infants born to mothers residing in areas where surface water was disinfected had smaller cranial circumference. In addition, these infants had a smaller body length and lower birthweight.
Meggs et al. (1996) examined 13 individuals (1 man and 12 women) 5 years after they were occupationally exposed to chlorine dioxide from a leak in a water purification system pipe. The long-term effects of the accident included development of sensitivity to respiratory irritants (13 subjects), disability with loss of employment (11 subjects), and chronic fatigue (11 subjects). Nasal abnormalities (including injection telangectasia, paleness, cobblestoning, edema, and thick mucus) were found in all 13 individuals. Nasal biopsies taken from the subjects revealed chronic inflammation with lymphocytes and plasma cells present within the lamina propria in 11 of the 13 subjects; the inflammation was graded as mild in 2 subjects, moderate in 8 subjects, and severe in 1 subject. Nasal biopsies from three control subjects showed chronic inflammation in one subject.
males exposed to 50 mg/L and in females exposed to 25 mg/L: Absolute liver weights were decreased in males, and absolute spleen weights were decreased in females.
Serum lactate dehydrogenase and apartate aminotransferase levels were decreased and serum creatinine levels were increased in the males … A significant increase in incidence of nasal lesions (goblet cell hyperplasia and inflammation of nasal turbinates) was found and the study authors postulated that these lesions were likely caused by inhalation of chlorine dioxide vapors at the drinking water sipper tube or from off-gassing of the vapors after drinking rather than ingestion of the drinking water.
Abdel-Rahman et al. (1984b) exposed groups of four male Sprague-Dawley rats to 0, 1, 10, 100, an 1000 mg/L chlorine dioxide drinking water 20 hours/day for 11 months: A number of statistically significant hematologic alterations were observed; however, the magnitude of the alterations *** does not appear to be dose related *** :
Osmotic fragility was decreased …
Erythrocyte counts were decreased …
Reduced hematocrit and hemoglobin levels were observed in all groups …
hematocrit levels were significantly increased …
Mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentrations were increased …
Blood glutathione levels were significantly reduced …
DNA synthesis (assessed using H-thymidine incorporation) was significantly reduced in the kidneys …
decreased in the testes …
increased in the intestinal mucosa …
The lack of a consistent relationship between dose and hematologic alterations and the small number of animals (four males/group) confound interpretation of the study.
AND THERE IS MUCH MORE TO READ …
my basic opinion is that it probably doesn’t hurt to use it for a short while, but it probably DOES do a lot of bad things if used chronically.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts160.html
Studies in rats have shown that exposure of pregnant animals to chlorine dioxide or exposure of pups shortly after birth may cause delays in the development of the brain.
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf
It has also been shown that chlorine dioxide reacts with free fatty acids (Ghandbari et al., 1983).
chlorine dioxide reacts readily with amino acids cysteine, tryptophan, and tyrosine …
Acid-Chlorite Solution – Chlorine dioxide can be generated by direct-acidification generators in acidification of sodium chlorite solution. Several stoichiometric reactions have been reported for such processes (Gordon et al., 1972). When chlorine dioxide is generated in this way, hydrochloric acid is generally preferred.
Chlorine dioxide generators are operated to obtain the maximum production (yield) of chlorine dioxide, while minimizing free chlorine or other residual oxidant formation. The specified yield for chlorine dioxide generators is typically greater than 95 percent.
[so, even for commericial generators, 5% of the reaction produces free chlorine and other by-products – this link also describes the dynamic complexity of chlorine dioxide reactions]
[in order for CLO2 to be effective against most pathogens, you need to build up a concentration of several mg/L of ClO2 in your body …]
Chlorite and chlorate are produced in varying ratios as endproducts during chlorine dioxide treatment and subsequent degradation.
Chlorine dioxide reacts with the soluble forms of iron and manganese to forms precipitates that can be removed through sedimentation and filtration.
At this time, it is unclear whether the primary mode of inactivation for chlorine dioxide lies in the peripheral structures or nucleic acids.
The application of chlorine dioxide does not produce THMs and produces only a small amount of total organic halide (TOX) (Werdehoff and Singer, 1987).
chlorine dioxide concentrations exceeding 0.4 to 0.5 mg/L contribute to taste and odor problems (AWWA, 1990).
[so, if you had several mg/L of ClO2 in your body liquids, the dose to kill most pathogens, your body fluids would be fairly odorous with the smell of chlorine]
Singer (1992) noted that the formation of non-halogenated organic byproducts of chlorine dioxide has not been adequately researched … [but] produces a small amount of organic halides (Werdehoff and Singer, 1987).
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts160.html
Chlorine dioxide is a gas that does not occur naturally in the environment.
[often, i see this listed as a “natural supplement”, and it is neither natural, nor a supplement].
Chlorite is formed when chlorine dioxide reacts with water.
When added to water, chlorine dioxide forms chlorite ion, which is also a very reactive chemical.
Chlorine dioxide is a very reactive compound and breaks down quickly in the environment.
Both chlorine dioxide and chlorite react quickly in water or moist body tissues. Eating or drinking large amounts of chlorite salts may cause irritation in the mouth, esophagus, or stomach.
There are no studies on cancer in humans exposed to chlorine dioxide or chlorite.
Based on inadequate information in humans and in animals, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) and the EPA have determined that chlorine dioxide and sodium chlorite are not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.
Studies in rats have shown that exposure of pregnant animals to chlorine dioxide or exposure of pups shortly after birth may cause delays in the development of the brain.
[the chloride ion was 80% of the ClO2 metabolites, and chlorite 20% – not “salt” as claimed].
Neonatal jaundice occurred more frequently in infants whose mothers resided in the area where surface water was disinfected with chlorine dioxide, when compared with infants with mothers using nondisinfected well water. Infants born to mothers residing in areas where surface water was disinfected had smaller cranial circumference. In addition, these infants had a smaller body length and lower birthweight.
Meggs et al. (1996) examined 13 individuals (1 man and 12 women) 5 years after they were occupationally exposed to chlorine dioxide from a leak in a water purification system pipe. The long-term effects of the accident included development of sensitivity to respiratory irritants (13 subjects), disability with loss of employment (11 subjects), and chronic fatigue (11 subjects). Nasal abnormalities (including injection telangectasia, paleness, cobblestoning, edema, and thick mucus) were found in all 13 individuals. Nasal biopsies taken from the subjects revealed chronic inflammation with lymphocytes and plasma cells present within the lamina propria in 11 of the 13 subjects; the inflammation was graded as mild in 2 subjects, moderate in 8 subjects, and severe in 1 subject. Nasal biopsies from three control subjects showed chronic inflammation in one subject.
males exposed to 50 mg/L and in females exposed to 25 mg/L: Absolute liver weights were decreased in males, and absolute spleen weights were decreased in females.
Serum lactate dehydrogenase and apartate aminotransferase levels were decreased and serum creatinine levels were increased in the males … A significant increase in incidence of nasal lesions (goblet cell hyperplasia and inflammation of nasal turbinates) was found and the study authors postulated that these lesions were likely caused by inhalation of chlorine dioxide vapors at the drinking water sipper tube or from off-gassing of the vapors after drinking rather than ingestion of the drinking water.
Abdel-Rahman et al. (1984b) exposed groups of four male Sprague-Dawley rats to 0, 1, 10, 100, an 1000 mg/L chlorine dioxide drinking water 20 hours/day for 11 months: A number of statistically significant hematologic alterations were observed; however, the magnitude of the alterations *** does not appear to be dose related *** :
Osmotic fragility was decreased …
Erythrocyte counts were decreased …
Reduced hematocrit and hemoglobin levels were observed in all groups …
hematocrit levels were significantly increased …
Mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentrations were increased …
Blood glutathione levels were significantly reduced …
DNA synthesis (assessed using H-thymidine incorporation) was significantly reduced in the kidneys …
decreased in the testes …
increased in the intestinal mucosa …
The lack of a consistent relationship between dose and hematologic alterations and the small number of animals (four males/group) confound interpretation of the study.
AND THERE IS MUCH MORE TO READ …
my basic opinion is that it probably doesn’t hurt to use it for a short while, but it probably DOES do a lot of bad things if used chronically.
i was in error – many water supplies do chlorinate using elemental chlorine (and sodium hypochlorite, and sodium chlorite/chlorine dioxide).
A question, please Adam. I have tried to source out an answer on the numerous MMS sites, and in JH’s books, with no luck. My sister-in-law has succeeded in a battle with breast cancer, through radiation and chemotherapy. She is now on a estrogen-blocker called tamoxifin, aimed at “preventing” the cancer from coming back. Would the MMS negate the effect of this hormone blocker, or would it still do “it’s thing”? Her husband (my brother) and I would love to see her take a leap of faith and start the MMS protocol regardless of the answer to her question, but she is not 100% convinced. Any ideas on where I could find an answer for her?
I am sorry to bother you – I know you must be incredibly busy, but you were the one who first popped into my mind who might have the answer.
Many thanks,Julie
Go figure on the colloidal silver. I do the same thing. Yet, sometimes the “positive result” lies in the negative result that might have, but didn’t happen.
I appreciate what you’re saying about chemistry not being so simple. It’s not.
Neither do I advocate unqualified and unsupported statements that encourage stupid actions. But what are stupid actions? Continuing to take in toxins without taking active steps to remove them, seems unwise to me.
The complexities of chemistry notwithstanding, the traits of chlorine dioxide contrast significantly enough with that of chlorine scientifically to warrant the very experimentation that you acknowledge is acceptable. And people are weighing the available information on the subject, and then doing that.
Their results are bearing out what the scientific principles suggest should occur.
We know what toxins do, even though few of us have ever seen them do it. We are experiencing the results each day.
Whether I have personally seen a chlorine dioxide molecule oxidize a pathogen and leave a healthy cell unaffected or not, I have observed and experienced what would appear to be the logical and natural effect of a reduction in toxicity… i.e., a reduction in pain (where pain was constant), and a general improvement in health, energy, and overall well-being.
The results ultimately speak louder than theory. But they only speak to those who are willing to test them on themselves.
Without the prior theory, and a willingness to explore it personally, the results wouldn’t be known.
Thanks for your insights.
Best wishes,
Adam…
> Please continue to research the difference between chlorine and chlorine dioxide. This report speaks specifically about chlorinated water, which is the predominant form of water treatment in the United States.
one of my degrees is chemistry, though i don’t think it matters much except that it seems that most people have no knowledge of basic sciences, and it scares me sometimes. i am well aware of the difference between chlorine and chlorine dioxide. first of all, chlorinated water is not created by adding chlorine to water. it is either created by the addition of bleach (NaClO), or by the the same method as MMS: acidifying sodium chlorite to produce chlorine dioxide. second of all, the chemistry is not so simple, it is a very dynamic and unstable chemistry, and regardless of how the water is chlorinated, many of the same ions are produced. lastly, the whole point was missed – i don’t think you read the article. the point is this: oxidized oils are rancid oils, which cause plaque and heart disease, and when you oxidize omega3’s, you destroy one of the main protections from cancer, not to mention that we are already deficient in omega3’s. this is the whole point we take flaxseed/hemp/cold-water fish oils. to oxidize them defeats the whole purpose. we know we are not supposed to heat or allow oxygen to turn those oils rancid, we know that is bad already.
> For example, chlorine dioxide does NOT destroy acidophilus.
i doubt this – do you have proof of this? not that it is important – but i see so many of these kind of statements without ever seeing evidence, and reason would tell me otherwise. there is nothing i know that makes acidophilus so special as not to be destroyed by a chemical that kills all other bacteria.
> It does not combine with organic impurities to form trihalomethanes (THMs) or chloramines. These are well documented and known characteristics of chlorine.
this is oversimplification. chemistry is not so simple. it is not like playing with tinkertoys. such statements cannot be accurate when considering the actions of reactive and potent oxidizers, in a dynamic equilibrium of other ions, enters the human body with a million other chemicals. it just isn’t so simple.
i am neither for nor against experimentation. and i do see that we are in a fascist/socialist tyranny, and i am all for people taking action on their own. but i am not for unqualified and unsupported statements that encourage stupid actions either.
i think it might do some good, i don’t know – i don’t see well documented evidence, and i haven’t tried it myself. but i have read all about silver over the years, and i have tried that, and it was supposed to cure everything – but that was not my experience. how things act in vitro has little bearing on how things act in vivo. i still take silver – but i am not really sure why – i can’t say i ever noticed any positive results
Marita,
Try taking your MMS in pomegranate juice. It almost tastes GOOD!
Regards,
Adam…
Chad,
Please continue to research the difference between chlorine and chlorine dioxide. This report speaks specifically about chlorinated water, which is the predominant form of water treatment in the United States.
For example, chlorine dioxide does NOT destroy acidophilus. It does not combine with organic impurities to form trihalomethanes (THMs) or chloramines. These are well documented and known characteristics of chlorine.
Best wishes,
Adam
i strongly suggest that anyone that is interested in sodium chlorite (MMS) read this – i ran across it in my own research. chlorinated water is a #1 cause of alimentary tract cancers and heart/artery disease.
http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2000/articles/2000-v15n02-p089.shtml
I am now on 11 drops a day of MMS and had been really struggling with the taste. For the past 2 days I have used pure organic apple juice with the mix and there’s absolutely no yukky taste to contend with.
I’m not aware that I have any parasites or other pathogens and at 57 years old I’m in excellent health. I’m assuming though that the MMS is going to be purifying my system in ways that I may never know about. I’d love to hear your comments on this.
Thanks, Marita
Hi phaelosopher,
Many thanks for your reply.
My intake of rainwater was around 18 months ago for about 8 weeks only. Thats when I got the bug. Since then I have been on scheme water, but the bug has remained. hence my intent to get rid of it.
Since writing my previous message, there has been a remarkable change in my reaction to MMS. I have now gone up to 12 drops with no ill effects whatsoever. Suddenly its a walk in the park. I remember reading somewhere in Jim Humble’s notes that the ill affects are the body’s dealing with the dislodged toxins. so I am surmising that whatever toxins I have had have now been cleared significantly enough that the side effects have disappeared. I have no other explanation.
I still feel it at the back of the throat just a little, but even that has decreased. However I note your suggestion of pomegranate juice which I will certainly try. Again Thank you.
Robert
Robert,
There’s no problem reducing the intake. You might even consider taking 5 or 6 drops twice each day instead of the larger amount daily. [Perhaps you’re saying that you’ve already made that decision.]
I believe the MMS will help with the parasite. You might also add a few drops to the water before you drink it. Perhaps it’ll kill the parasites before they get into your system.
Also, a friend recommended using pomegranate juice to wash the MMS down with. I tried it today, and it totally masks the taste of the MMS, and I can almost say it tastes good. This might have a soothing effect on your throat. It’s worth a go, eh?
I am on 10 drops currently and noticed from taking 8 I am feeling a burning sensation in the back of the throat during and after swallowing the mix. Both 9 and 10 drop level has been quite challenging with nausea and diarrhoea. I have decided to take it once a day and at night rather than the morning which tends to wipe me out for most of the day. I have an amoebic parasite in the blood from drinking unboiled rain water, common problem in Queensland. According to Doctors you can never get rid of it from the system. I am hoping MMS will do it. Is reducing dosage OK and any comments about the burning throat?
Cynthia,
This is my opinion. There’s no need to race to 15 drops 3x a day. Your feeling great is what’s most important. You should eventually see other signs of restored health as well. Work your way up at a rate that feels most comfortable to, and for *you*.
Regards,
Adam…
Hi Ethel,
Are you taking the MMS before or after breakfast? In my opinion, I’d suggest that you’re not really losing the benefit of the MMS if you throw up, because enough of it would have been working in order to make it happen in the first place. In addition to “losing” the MMS, you’re losing toxicity that was in your body. Your body has that much less to deal with.
Relatively speaking this may be the quicker way to go with regard to detoxifying, but it’s also more unpleasant. You can always cut back on the number of drops temporarily, but the day will come when 14 drops produces no unpleasant side effects, and neither will 15. You’ll also feel the difference physically.
Best wishes,
Adam…
Hey Tor,
Thanks for writing!
Chlorine dioxide is NOT an acid. It is a gas. The sodium chlorite molecule that it is generated from has a pH of 13. A mild acid is used to bring the pH down, which generates the chlorine dioxide, which has oxidation properties. The chlorine dioxide does not combine with acids, as chlorine does. It accepts up to 5 of their electrons, thereby rendering them GONE, to be flushed out of the body.
The MMS solution is clear. The citric acid activator is also clear. If you’re using those two in combination, they will take on a yellow tint in about 3 minutes. At which point, chlorine dioxide gas has been generated, and the solution is ready for consumption. If it is not consumed, the chlorine dioxide will eventually break down into a small quantity of salt and water. I’ve never done this, but I would assume that the solution would become clear again.
I’ve had five recorded conversations with Jim Humble, so I’m not clear on the specific reference that you’re making. However, if we’re talking about “drops,” we’re referring to the MMS. So if it’s 12 drops, we’d be talking about the MMS, with an automatic inference of 60 drops (5 x 12) of activator (citric acid or lemon/lime juice).
Adam…
Dear AA!
During your conversation with Jim Humble there are a number of numbers flying. At the end of that session 12 drops is mentioned. Question; does that refer to a total of 12 drops or 36 drops ?
Mfr from Tor in Norway
Dear AA!
The batch I prepare of Citrus acid is 2 dl. However I get the impression that the activator is getting weaker as time passes. There is less taste, smell and color. Any one ?
Mfr from Tor in Norway
Dear AA
How can you neutralize an acid condition with an acid like MMS. In your interview wit Jim you touch on this two times,
Mfr from Tor in Norway
I have been on mms for 2 weeks now and have gotten up to 14 drops.. Trouble is I am losing my breakfast for the last 3 days.. Am I also losing the benefit of the mms taken in the morning.I don’t seem to have a problem at night.. I have tried both ways of before and after brekky but no different. Any Suggestions..
I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer a few years ago. I am forfunate that I found the information on mms. I still haven’t been able to get to 15 drops three time a day and I have been on it since December. Should I stop and drop down to six and forget about the 15×3? I am happy to be feeling great dispite this. Any advise?
In regards to the poster above, Dana Morris,
I believe that the cancer test that Jim Humble recommended was the AMAS cancer test.
The AMAS test is available at the link bellow.
http://www.oncolabinc.com/
You can read more about Mr. Jim Humble’s thought’s on the AMAS cancer test on the link bellow.
http://www.miraclemineral.org/importantinfo.php
dear adam on the interview “cancer and mms” with jim humble jim mentioned a test that you can get for cancer— you daid that the information about it would be posted on here or somewhere but i cannot find it… can you write me the info.???? let me know
thank you so much for everything you do!
lovingly,
dana morris
new york
Thank you Adam!
Hi Brian,
Sounds to me like you would benefit by getting over your fear of your fears. You are a powerful influence over your experience, apparently more powerful than you know. By claiming and embracing the phobias, you give them their reality (and power). Believe it or not, your reality will change as you transcend your fears, whatever they are. If you fear passing out, it’s likely because you have not yet become too uncomfortable with your physical discomfort, whatever it may happen to be.
Be at peace with your process, and with your power to heal. KNOW that if you pass out, you will wake up. You do it each night when you go to sleep. Empower your highest desires instead of your fears.
Thank you for writing.
Adam…
I have been studying natural therapies for 20 odd years but I am convinced you have found a brilliant product for prevention of diseases.
However I have a major issue since my childhood I have many phobias and anxiety attacks and sometimes I pass out from the nervous reation in the gut. These reactions are also triggered off by certain health products,teas or foods or tablets which dissagree with my stomach but it happens within 3 minutes of swallowing and now I have a fear of alot of remedies which I know can help me immensely but am too frightened to take because of the possibility of passing out.
Do you have any suggestions for me or could this product MMS not cause a reaction..?
Thank you for you time in reading this.
Your friend in God.
Brian
Thank you Rett once again. Your thoughts are examined one-by-one in a new post.
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/prophylactic-mms-or-forgiveness-which-is-the-more-important-response-to-dis-ease/
Hello again, Adam,
I hope you don’t mind this little critique about your radio program with Jim, the one on cancer.
You state that cancer is a serious problem and that people don’t want to have it or want to survive it. This is good and well…….but
Statistically cancer has been increasing exponentially over the last 50 years in this nation.
To be free of cancer. Yes. This is what we all want but most people, the vast majority of people do not understand or either stand in denial that cancer is in the body for many years before the symptoms drive them to the doctor for an official diagonois.
For MOST of us, as current statistics continue to soar, we will have cancer by the age of 80, and for many, at a much, much younger age. Oh how those statistics lie, how they misrepresent the truth. The health care system twists them to their convenience. Watch them very carefully.
So MMS for cancer treatment for an active diagnosis is likely a very important treatment modality. But we, as those racing on the exponential curve into the future, we already might have cancer or are harboring other elements of causation and we just are not aware of it yet. This FACT needs to be driven home.
I am always amazed at how surprised people are to find that they have cancer. Three months ago just fine, today near dead. I feel sorry for them. They did not know. But they could have known. I meet these people all the time! Someone could have told them. Every single one of us is at risk and the risk and the cancer is there years before the disease is found. If you do not work to heal your body of cancer long before it shows you will likely die of cancer or succumb to the cut, slash and burn treatments offered after it finally does make its appearance.
This is one little detail the doctors ignore. They will never tell a 55 year old man or woman that they likely already have cancer even when symptoms are not present Why? Simply because they don’t have a test that can show it to them. Ha. But the tests are available if you know where to look.
Some may call this fear mongering. I call it looking at reality and calling as it is. Those who treat themselves early, before active symptoms present will prevent a world of woe for themselves. MMS is the preventative and early cure we have been looking for.
MMS should be taken by everyone on a prophylactic basis. Jim has spoken about this some but it needs to be driven home. Perhaps you will find some time to discuss this with him.
Best,
Rett
I’m such a huge fan of Andreas’ teachings!!!! I’m so happy to see that you’re going to inteview him!!!!! I will definitely watch!!! Exciting!!!!!!!!! Tell him that everyone from the curezone forum where he used to answer questions misses him immensely!!!!!!!!!!
Hope you enjoyed it! I learned some new tricks myself.
wow, looking forward to it!